01-28-2015, 03:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-28-2015, 04:21 PM by Lunarscope.)
(01-28-2015, 02:43 PM)Observer Wrote: Lunarscope, being an LDS woman I understand perfectly why Deanna Reid reacted the way she did when Wilmott accused her of being dishonest in front of millions of people who are following the trial through tweets. Lying is a sin in our religion. To be called a liar is like being called a sinner. Deanna had to take time away from her job and home because Marc McGee told a lie about her and Travis and now she has to put up with Wilmott turning the tables and accusing her of lying. I don't believe Deanna Reid lied in her 2011 interview with the defense. I believe she didn't tell them she had sex with Alexander because she believes as I do her sex life is none of their business. She said on the stand Alexander joked about being a virgin because he believed his sex life was private. She also admitted they had sex for a year after dating for two years. But that they confessed to their bishops, repented and stopped having sex and quit dating because she wanted marriage and he didn't.
I also don't blame Reid for insisting that the defense play the audio of her voice because the defense could have got someone to type that she said what she didn't say on a transcript. Arias is known for altering documents.
The question Wilmott repeated from the interview was: "Would you be surprised to know that Jodi Arias wasn't the only woman he had sex with?" She may have said yes. Then they might have asked her if she thought he was a virgin and she might have said, "yes." She had said on the stand in 2013 during the murder trial that Travis might have joked about being a virgin but she and he both believed that their sex life was private and they didn't go around talking about it. She certainly didn't want to talk about it to the attorneys who were defending the woman who slaughtered her ex lover.
What Arias is trying to do is say is that Alexander had sex with and verbally, emotionally and physically abused every woman he was involved with including Deanna Reid. That isn't true of course. I am sure Arias was furious when the Hughes emails were read by her sexpert where Alexander admits he loved Deanna Reid and felt bad because he didn't marry her after dating her for several years but he didn't see Jodi Arias in the same way. In the letter to the Alexanders, Arias said Travis wanted to marry her and they talked about the children they wanted to have and said Deanna was the jealous ex girlfriend.
Attorneys have to be careful in coaching witnesses because they can be accused of tampering with evidence by telling them what to say. It will be good for Reid to have time to cool off so she can testify today without looking guilty. I hope she is going to have time to finish her testimony today. This morning Nurmi is interviewing Detective Smith, a computer forensics expert for the Mesa Police Department about porn on the computer. Testimony will resume at 1:30 pm.
Abe Abdehaldi is the first witness to testify that Arias was upset that Travis Alexander wouldn't commit to her and he told her Alexander wasn't as in to her as she was to him and she should date other men. He also pointed out that he had one date with her and a year and a half later she uses it to make Travis Alexander jealous and made up that bogus email she claimed was sent to Abdehaldi because the email did not have Abdehaldi's email address on it.
I know juries may be turned off by hostile witnesses and believe like you did that Reid had lied but maybe it will turn out that the defense tricked her into saying what she did by the questions they asked like they did Sky Hughes. Nurmi sent Sky Hughes an email saying a handwriting expert had verified that letters written by Travis Alexander proved he was a pedophile and they thought she should know. Being honest herself, it never occurred to Sky that an attorney would lie so she believed him. She responded: "I knew he had issues but I never knew this was one of them. What ages did he prefer?"
Gloating Nurmi brought this up in an evidentiary hearing in which he was questioning Chris Hughes, Sky's husband, about a conversation he had with Gus Searcy. He showed Hughes the forged pedophile letters and Hughes said "the letters are fake and you know they are fake." With a smirk, Nurmi said, "Your wife didn't think they were fake." Hughes said that was because Nurmi had lied to her and said an expert proved the handwriting was Alexanders. Nurmi turned it on Hughes and said: "Did the prosecutor tell you they were forgeries?" This was back in 2013 during the murder trial when Nurmi was trying to prove Martinez told Hughes to convince Gus Searcy not to testify for the defense. Hughes said Searcy wanted to testify for the prosecution and was angry because they didn't call him back. Searcy confirmed this to HLN after he testified. He said he had information that would either clear or convict Jodi Arias and Martinez would not call him back. Searcy claimed Arias called him the night of the murder and told him Alexander was dead. That was a lie. She called him the night Daniel Freeman called her and told her the police found Alexander's body. Searcy saw the trial as a way to get his 15 minutes of fame and wanted to testify. When the prosecutor wouldn't call him back, he called the defense and was furious because neither one of them asked him about the phone call because they knew he got the dates mixed up.
Reid knows the defense is going to try to make her out a liar and a battered woman who was trying to protect her reputation and Alexander's after his death. The bishop will back up her testimony.
The bishop's wife has been on the state's rebuttal witness list for months. But the bishop and Deanna were added to the state's witness list last week after Marc McGee named them in his affidavit. The bishop will testify that Alexander wasn't even living at his home in 2000 when there was porn on the computer but McGee was. McGee was looking at porn and blamed it on Alexander. McGee loves the limelight and after Arias was convicted, he went to the Jodi Arias is Innocent site to brag that he knew Alexander and said he never saw him beat a woman but he talked down to them so he can see why she said she was emotionally abused. He also bragged that he was going to testify at her appeal and get her out of jail.
McGee told Geffner that he knew Deanna Reid and knew the girl was her. Now she testified that she didn't know him, I bet McGee is now changing his story again and saying, "Now, I remember it wasn't Deanna Reid. It was the other girl he was dating. But I saw Travis Alexander beating a woman." In the affidavit, McGee said the beating took place in January 2001 and he remembered the date clearly because his wife wrote about it in her diary. Where is that diary entry to prove what he saying? Then when Geffner told him Reid was in Costa Rica on a mission until November 2001, McGee sent an email to the defense saying he had the date wrong. It was December 2001. Of course, Wilmott and Nurmi know he is lying and they are suborning perjury but they do it anyway. I hope Martinez can show the jury the posts McGee made on social media to prove he had a motive to lie. He wanted to brag that he knew Alexander and that he was going to get Arias out of jail with his testimony.
Some I knew' Wow thanks for putting it all together, plus the Mormon perspective, I once rented a barn/apartment from a great Morman and family, (I was 19) in Hawaiian Garden California, over 10 kids mostly a year apart with a married oldest child also renting an adjoining apartment, on church day they would dawn their garments for travel, beyond that I just saw them as religious, my only bad experience was when my German Sheppard ate one of their Chickens! Landlord even supplied me free firewood (wooden pallats) and I was allowed Swimming Pool use' when it was unused, he owned over an acre!
Welcome back Nern!
(01-28-2015, 02:48 PM)NERN Wrote:(01-27-2015, 04:13 PM)Observer Wrote: I believe that the old message board may have crashed because we are bogging it down with cutting and pasting long articles and violating copyright infringements. Please don't post entire articles from other sites. Simply cut and paste the link and select information from the article that you want to discuss.
The jury questions and answers were interesting to me. This tells me that this jury knows Jodi Arias is lying about the pedophilia and the abuse because it doesn't make sense to them. And that the PTSD diagnosis is a sham.
Nern and Duluth, I hope you find the new forum. Nurmi finally did file the motion 1/25 for a mistrial based on prosecutorial misconduct. He is upset because Martinez disclosed Marc McGee's name in open court three times and he accused Dr. Geffner of "smearing" the victim Travis Alexander.
http://www.courtchatter.com/2015/01/jodi-arias-defense-motion-requesting.html
The motion will be denied as the others were. McGee has used his full name on the Jodi Arias is Innocent Site where he has posted repeatedly that he was a friend of Travis Alexander, that he never saw him hit a woman and he was going to testify at her appeal and get her out of jail. This proves he is lying about being afraid to testify and is just hiding behind the affidavit to avoid being exposed as a liar on the stand by Martinez. His posts prove he was lying in his affidavit when he reported seeing Alexander yell at, curse at and physically attack Deanna Reid and proves that he has a motive to lie. Martinez is right. Geffner's only purpose on the stand is to smear the reputation of the victim, which shows the convicted murderess has no remorse and no mitigation factors.
I am back!!!!
Will think about comments and post later!
Sorry if my long posts aided in crashing this site. Will not do it again! I have missed this over the past few daysa.
I edited out a long article (above' second from top) and as Observer said a link would have been sufficient, but rest assured, theirs no issue with long comments that are not cut from news stories, DrR posted to post anything' and board crashed when updating, but I plan on adhering to Observers wishes, protecting the board is protecting our thoughts and experiences! I have stated since the first trial (my impression) "We effect change" this and that blog has more readers than posters!