(03-10-2015, 10:31 PM)NERN Wrote: No where does it say that Juror #17 was not participating in deliberations but rather she was "ineffective" during deliberations. They also stated that it did improve after the impasse situation.
This is a clear example of how things get twisted when presented through the media.
JSS researched the law very well and given the responses from jurors interviewed, including #17, she found no grounds for the dismissal of this juror OR Â a mistrial as asked for by Nurmi
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Thank you Nern for noting this information. While I haven't read the minutes, I did accept that JSS had to have considered what was said, including the Juror #17 message to the court along with the other Jurors concerns. Not an easy task to weigh, JSS refers to the law for the answer. I'm satisfied and agree, the one "hold out" doesn't deserve the treatment she has received, even though I have some doubts about her intent.
(03-10-2015, 11:15 PM)Observer Wrote: All of the jurors had to state they could vote for the death penalty. So if she was against the death penalty, she lied to get on the jury. That is jury misconduct.
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Observer, I understand what you're saying, though Juror #17 was quoted by another jurist during interviews that she did agree with the death penalty but could not articulate her belief on what, exactly would constitute a death penalty if it was not this case. Juror #17, it's said, felt Arias did have mental issues. This seems to be her reasoning, that particular mitigation factor is what she based her decision on, and perhaps a little more.
In other words, to me, that means what ever the clear diagnosis is of Arias, she planned and committed this horrific crime. Every action by Arias prior to that, is reason enough to know there is something incredibly dangerous about her even when I think of her current behavior - no one disagrees about her ability to manipulate her environment, except for her supporters. Arias isn't insane, she does things and did things because she could and it didn't matter to her...to me there's something mentally wrong with that kind of thought process. A mental illness where that person should never be in public ever again. I really think she enjoyed what she did and I find that terrifying.
I don't own a television and haven't for years so I haven't seen the current shows caught up in this case but, I do know they would wear me out if I did!!