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RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 04-16-2015
thank you Justice - I had just finished feading this.
It was very good!
RE: End is Near Hopefully - duluth45 - 04-16-2015
Yes, Justice, thanks.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 04-16-2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xtTENgczJo&sns=tw
this is excellent by Mikee Daniels!!!!!
RE: End is Near Hopefully - duluth45 - 04-18-2015
So is this it? There's nothing more to say?
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Justice - 04-18-2015
I think I will add on here one more excerpt from the book I recommended, where the author has taken apart Arias testimony, often sentence by sentence. She was actually confusing in her lies when she testified all those long, weary days and often talked so fast that we had overlooked many things she said. That book is 'Beyond the Words, Vol 1'. I have already gotten Vol 2, as this is written confirmation of JA's many lies and her way of answering Nurmi's questions with answers he did not even ask about. But this is really funny now to read, and I'm thinking...why didn't we catch all this THEN? (But we couldn't, because she was literally making no sense, at all.)
“I had been getting my suspicions about things. He was treating me a little differently about things, a little more distant, a lot more flirty with other women, and it just made me uncomfortable. When I tried to talk to him about it, he blew up and got very defensive, even though I didn’t accuse him of anything (calling him flirty and distant isn’t accusatory?), so it was kind of a red flag (it wouldn’t have mattered if the flag was red, black, white, or on fire – Jodi Arias was not going to pay attention to flags of any kind). He assured me that he was only dating me, and I left it at that. There were a couple of things that stuck out on the trip,too. Umm…at Daniel Summit, but I ignored it, and then we got back to Dave’s house, and he was taking a nap one day, and he left his phone wedged between two cushions in the couch, in the living room (which is exactly where he wanted it while he was napping on the couch, and exactly where it should have stayed. Somehow, this phone is going to end up flying out from between these cushions, and its going to land right into her hands, right?), and he was in another bedroom sleeping (no, he wasn’t…that makes no sense for someone who was as socially and professionally connected as Travis), and, I just, I figured (here it comes…more theft of information), I didn’t know if he was being honest with me – I had a feeling he wasn’t, and I wanted (because that’s the moral litmus test for her – does she want something) to know if I should continue in this relationship, or I should give him the benefit of the doubt (no, she had already decided there was no benefit of the doubt – now it was just a matter of collecting evidence), I’d been cheated on before (is she going to throw the kitchen sink in as well?), and I figured it was just emotional baggage that I’m looking into and reading things that weren’t there, so I saw his phone, and I debated on whether I should look at it, and I was kind of sitting there and tapping my fingers (wow, this is incredible), and finally I snatched it, and I ran into the bathroom, and I shut the door, and I was clicking around on his phone – he had a touch screen, it was a smartphone, I didn’t really know how to use it – but I found the text messages and began to read them.”
Here’s the Reader’s Digest condensed version of that story: So as not to wake Travis, she slowly and carefully removed the phone, ran to the bathroom, and invaded his privacy…again. Her story of how the stars aligned perfectly to set the stage for this intrusion is just evidence of the fact that she knows normal people will fault her for doing this. By the way, what is it about Jodi Arias and bathrooms? She beats them up when she’s angry, she hides in them when she’s jealous, she uses them as her office when she’s playing private detective, she follows women into them and holds them hostage when she feels she’s been disrespected, and she kills people in them when she wants to murder someone.
Nurmi asks, “And without telling us what they said, based on those text messages on Mr. Alexander’s phone, you believed he was not being faithful with you?” Jodi answers, “Yes”. Nurmi continues, “Was there a particular person you believed he was dating after you saw these text messages” (Why do I feel like I’m in divorce court? So what? Who cares if he was dating every girl in Mesa? That’s completely up to him. In fact, I’m beginning to wonder if Travis was trying to drive her away – perhaps ignoring hr and being flirtatious was his way of trying to tell her that the bloom was off the rose. Sometimes, that’s the way people break up with other people – they make it so uncomfortable and so humiliating that the other party gathers up their self-respect and calls it quits.)
Jodi answers, “No, there weren’t too many names, there were just a lot of phone numbers, and it wouldn’t have been a person, it was several different people, many different phone numbers.” Good for Travis. I hope these relationships brought him some joy.
Nurmi now tries to rehabilitate the snoop by repeating what she already said; she knew all about this, but she didn’t want to cause any chaos or drama on their trip, so she kept all of her pain hidden, for his benefit, of course. Bad move on Nurmi’s part, again. She caused plenty of chaos and drama – she was just biding her time and waiting for the right moment to exact her revenge. He really should strive to remember that the people he’s underestimating already knows exactly how this story ends, even if Arias claims she doesn’t remember any of it. Everybody knows exactly what happened.
In short: normal, healthy, sexually repressed male, sees young, well made-up bleach blond at a conference. The attraction is instant, but once he finds out that this woman has a decade long sexual past, and is currently five years into a live-in relationship, he crosses her off the potential wife list. She wants what he has, and she uses every charm - the ones that have worked with her assorted odd boyfriends in the past – and thinks she’s going to be successful again. He sleeps with her. She’s fine with that. Then, she becomes demanding, suffocating, and possessive. She invades every area of his life and his privacy. He tries to disengage. They go back and forth. When it finally becomes obvious that he never intended to marry her, from day on forward, she kills him. It isn’t much more complicated than that.
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As for me...I'm glad this book can be ordered so cheap on Amazon Kindle, but I got the free app to read it online. I have a Kindle, but neither me nor anyone I know has been able to get it working, so I got a Nook from Barnes and Noble. But they don't have these books yet. By the author's diligence in showing JA's testimony, sentence by sentence, it really shows me the Judge did right in sentencing her to 'the rest of her natural life in Prison'! (Where she certainly belongs for the safety of any others who might happen to cross her path and she can't 'live free off them'. The fact is...she always lived 'free', except for the maybe, sometimes when she paid some in the house she and Darryl shared. She lived in tents with guys, in free employee housing at her resort job, with the guy's grandparents, her grandparents....she was always looking for someone to leech off of...free.)
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Confused - 04-18-2015
I became interested to all of this, not until the sentencing phase, so I'm behind a bit. Is Juror 17 the one that couldn't vote for the death penalty? If so, it seems like she wouldn't be a favorite of the Alexander Family, yet it seems like she's pretty close with them. How did that happen?
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Justice - 04-18-2015
Where did you find her 'close to the Alexanders'? She is not and has not ever been close to them.
In fact, after the Judge sentenced Arias, the jurors and also Juan Martinez and Detective Flores and some others who had faithfully stood with them through this 7 year ordeal were invited to a get-together with the Alexanders. Juror #17 was not there and not invited. In fact, she was the lone juror who did not attend the sentencing day!
But, no, she is not a friend to the Alexander family at all. She wants nothing to do with them, and they don't have any dealings with her. She's a loner. And I hope she's happy with herself.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Justice - 04-19-2015
One more question...did anyone here remember hearing that Jodi's brother managed to get a doctor's prescription for Medical marijuana, while she was on trial and that he has bragged about it on social media? I don't recall hearing about that, but it makes me wonder if his 'problems' started some years ago when he was hit in the head with a ball bat! (This is from that same book. I'm nearing the end of Vol. 1. I don't read and read constantly. Just some each day.)
Nurmi had just asked her, ”So, he ejaculated on your face (out on the front porch where she was living) and threw you some candy?” (What the hell am I listening to? In order for this kind of testimony to cause the kind of moral outrage this contemporary Abbott and Costello act are hoping to illicit, we would have to be hearing this from the mouth of a young girl who had been kidnapped and held prisoner by a sexual deviant. Because Jodi Arias was a willing participant in this alleged fantasy, it means nothing beyond the fact that Jodi Arias needed therapy and medication, not Toberone candy.)
As the pair wait for the impact to hit the jury, there’s a short pause. Nurmi picks it up with, “Is this hard for you to describe?” Nurmi, get a new eyeglass prescription. She stifles grins while she says, "Yeah, in front of my mom and dad, it is.” (Oh well, darling, get used to it, because your real porn performance is just around the corner.)
Nurmi is either losing his place consistently or he’s really over playing the whole “do you people on the jury realize how difficult it is for this young woman to talk about this in front of mommy and daddy?” approach, because the gaps are getting longer. We all know her parents are there. We saw them laughing ten minutes ago. I don’t know why Jodi didn’t mention the presence of her brother. He’s young, and he shouldn’t be listening to this. No wonder he needed a medical marijuana card (an achievement he bragged about on social media). He probably went to the doctor’s office and under ‘Chief Complaint” wrote, “I am the brother of Jodi Arias.” Prescription written – five refills.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Lavender - 04-19-2015
Hello
This is OP but I thought I would post this article for you to read.
http://www.livescience.com/49613-psychopaths-brains-punishment.html
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 04-19-2015
JUSTICE,
Very interesting and humorous take on things in the book Justice.
I am definitely sure there will be more books like this coming out in the future. Too many will want to get in on the money they think they can earn from this case.
This book seems to be readable but I doubt many other's will be.
I look forward to K. Randle's analysis of this case. She knows what she is talking about.
DULUTH,
Seems that so much has been said and what else is left?
Arias is locked away for the rest of her life.
I will continually look for information on any investigations that are maybe are ongoing with other issues regarding this case.
Like -
- where is the money and IRS issues
- charges for child endangerment
- appeal issues
- restitution issues
- etc.
When I find anything, I will post as I hope others will also.
Thanks Lavender - good read.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1slqkm9
For once, the media did not get what it wanted - koodos to Martinez!!