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RE: End is Near Hopefully - Justice - 02-07-2015
(02-06-2015, 01:30 PM)Observer Wrote: Prosecution’s witnesses testimony in case for the death penalty in a nutshell:
Dr. Kevin Horne: Travis Alexander suffered 11 stab wounds to his upper back between the shoulder blades, two stab wounds to the top and back of his head, one stab wound to the back of his neck and ear, four stab wounds to the heart and chest, three stab wounds to the belly, one stab wound across the throat, which severed the right carotid artery and airway, five defensive wounds to the hands and one single gunshot wound to the head.
He was killed three times over. Either the stab to the heart, the slit throat or the bullet in the brain could have killed him. He was alive when the knife was plunged into his heart and his throat was slit but he was dead when the bullet was fired into his brain. He suffered excruciating pain for two minutes.
Detective Estevan Flores: Bloody Arias palm print on bathroom wall matches that of Jodi Arias and the blood is a mixture of Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander’s blood. Bullet casing found lying on top of blood came from a .25 caliber gun just like the gun stolen in a burglary at the home of Jodi Arias grandparents where she was living. Arias’ hair was found in the shower. Pictures were found on Travis Alexander’s camera of Arias naked and Travis Alexander naked and pictures of Alexander taken seconds before and while he was being stabbed to death, which place Arias at the scene.
Yreka Detective – Arias grandfather reported a burglary at his home a week before the murder and the only item stolen was a .25 caliber gun identical to the one Arias used to shoot Travis Alexander a week later.
Ryan Byrnes- Arias called him a week before the murder and said she was coming to visit him in Salt Lake City. She left June 3 and he had no communication with her for 20 hours until she showed up at his house June 5. She was stopped by a cop because her license plates in back were upside down. She wore band aides to cover two cuts on her fingers. She grinded with him and appeared normal.
Rental car agent – Arias rented a car 100 miles from her home with blonde hair and returned it with the floor mats missing and a red stain.
Darrell Brewer- Arias called him a week before the murder and asked to borrow two gas cans and picked them up on her way to kill Travis Alexander.
Wal-Mart employee – Arias bought a gas can at a Salinas. CA store but never returned it.
Bishop Vernon Parker – There was no kiddy porn on his computer and Travis Alexander was not responsible for pop ups of scantily clad women similar to ads you see in a J.C. Penny catalogue and did not live in his house when a defense witness claims he confessed to being sexually abused as a child and to being responsible for putting kiddy porn on the bishop’s computer.
Deanna Reid- Travis Alexander never put his hands on her in an offensive way and she never met Marc McGee who said in an affidavit he witnessed Travis Alexander curse and yell at Deanna, knee her in the stomach and hurt her wrist.
Dr. Janeen DeMarte – Jodi Arias has a pattern of pursuing men, stalking them when they try to leave her, has a fear of abandonment and bursts of angry violence, gets involved with men too quickly and then devalues them and she devalued Travis Alexander by murdering him. She never reported any child abuse to any of the several psychologists who evaluated her and she told conflicting stories about domestic violence abuse and there is no evidence that she was ever abused by Travis Alexander.
Defense’s witness statements for mitigation:
Jodi Arias – She killed Travis Alexander and only lied to the police, friends, family and the media and denied killing Travis Alexander for two years because she couldn’t face that she had committed this horrific crime and she wishes she could do that day over again. It isn’t her fault because her mean mother beat her with a wooden spoon and smoked pot the day she was born and her violent father used cocaine, beat her with a belt and threw her against a wall and Travis Alexander cheated on her.
Dr. Miccio-Fonseca- Jodi Arias killed Travis Alexander because unrequited love leads to homicide. She wanted love. He just wanted sex. Travis Alexander had a jeckyl and hyde personality – T Dog and Travis Alexander. Jodi Arias “suffered in silence.”
Dr. Robert Geffner – Jodi Arias does not have a personality disorder. She has PTSD. Travis Alexander used and abused her and she was just after love and cuddles. Coworkers said she was a wonderful employee. A friend of Travis Alexander’s says Alexander confessed to him he was molested as a child and the child porn on the bishop’s computer was his. Carl, Arias brother, said that their father beat them with a belt and a friend of Carl’s said he witnessed Bill Arias throw Carl against a refrigerator.
John Smith, computer expert – There was porn on Travis Alexander’s computer.
The jury is charged with determining if the mitigators outweigh the aggravators.
It seems to me the state’s aggravators weighs a ton where the defense’s mitigators are light as a feather.
If the jurors do their job, death row is a very strong possibility.
Observer, Thanks for laying out the aggravating and migitating factors. Its nice to have them laid out together. if (and I repeat IF) Dr. Robert Geffner does get recalled by the defense, and IF he now says Arias does have a personality disorder as well as PTSD, then that would be definitely changing his sworn testimony. He was adamant that she does not have BPD. So, all Juan has to do is put the transcript up, showing that Geffner, indeed, did say that
And I'm sure the jurors will easily understand that!
In my opinion, the defense claiming PTSD was a damaging 'mitigator'. Very damaging. Even if she did, which she does not, she would have been stricken with it AFTER she ambushed and killed Travis so brutally. That meant nothing on the day she slithered into his bathroom and attacked him with 29 stab wounds, almost decapitated him, drug him back into the shower and then shot him in the face. It was very silly to offer that as a mitigator.
Add to that the fact that she was put in the psycho ward for 2 or 3 days, after Sheriff Joe heard her say she wanted to die or something like that. All that time, she was being watched and evaluated. Apparently, the people who evaluated her there determined she was not a threat to herself and she was sent back to the jail....TO AWAIT TRIAL. So, to offer a mitigating factor of PTSD was silly, in my opinion. PTSD did not cause her to commit the brutal murder!
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 02-07-2015
I have copied the following from an earlier post of mine as it bears reminding to all of us and it has some additional comments...
Refuting Arias' Mitigation Factors
1. Ms. Arias has no prior criminal history.
- although no charges were laid, police were called when her family found that she was growing pot on the roof of their house
- although no charges were laid, she has admitted to peeping in Travis' window while he was with another person
- although no charges were laid, she was accused by persons of slashing Travis' and a friend's tires
- although no charges were laid immediately, she continued to lie during her police interview
- she may not have any criminal history on the books, but she engaged in criminal activity
Although not heard in the first trial, these antics have come out this time around.
2. Ms. Arias was just 27 years old when she committed her offense.
- at 3 years shy of being 3 decades old, Arias was an adult when she killed Travis.
- she had finished the schooling she wished to take
- she was employed within the workforce
- she was living her life independently from her family
- she knew right from wrong
3. Ms. Arias is remorseful for her conduct.
- Shortly after the death of Travis, she wrote a lengthy letter to the family. Although she said she felt remorse, she spent the rest of the letter detailing her relationship with Travis and more importantly, the details of his death at the hands of ninjas.
- she talked with the state and family asking for a plea deal or she would make public her accusations of Travis being an abuser, porn lover and a pedophile
- she made up three different stories of her first, non-involvement, then her ninja story and finally her self-defense story
- she lied on tests done by expert(s) to help prove she had PTSD
- she claims she is innocent and no jury would convict her
- her entire defense was that she was the victim in this case and he made her do it
- and, and, and........
In her secret testimony, she expressed some remorse. She also used her "little girl voice" and had to be asked to speak up on several occasions. This shows me that she continues to try and manipulate depending on the circumstances. it has been proven that she adapts to circumstances to benefit her. This time she was playing the jury and they will notice this when deliberating given all the evidence that came forward after her testimony.
4. Ms. Arias suffered both physical and emotional as a child.
5. Ms. Arias suffered both physical and emotional abuse during her relationship with Mr. Alexander
- In both of these factors, there has been no proof of any abuse presented with the exception of Arias' own words!
- overwhelming evidence HAS been presented that Travis was not an abusive person to anyone
- there has been no corroboration of any abuse by her family
To say that text messages from Travis were verbally abusive is a stretch. In any relationship, people say things in the heat of the moment but it does not define the entire relationship which is a two-way street.
6. The abusive nature of the relationship caused Ms. Arias to suffer extreme emotional distress at the time of the incident.
- again, abuse at the hands of Travis in their relationship comes only from Arias
- the "incident" was premeditated days/weeks in advance with Arias covering her tracks as she travelled to Mesa.
- she says the "incident" was caused as she fought for her life and it was self defense
- this was emphatically disproved by her conviction and guilty verdict of Premeditated First Degree Felony Murder with Extreme Cruelty
7. Ms. Arias has been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
8. Ms. Arias has been diagnoses with Borderline Personality Disorder
- both of these diagnoses were presented by an expert in the first trial who was proved to 1. transcribe answers to tests himself and 2. answers from Arias were based on a base lie and therefore invalid
- this also was emphatically disproved by her conviction and guilty verdict of Premeditated First Degree Felony Murder with Extreme Cruelty
The new defense strategy is to say that Arias is mentally ill and therefore cannot be executed. Under the law, it is the severity of mental illness that is considered. Many people with BPD do not go on a murder anyone. Her premeditation before and after the crime emphatically proves that she was not in any way, shape or form Severely mentally ill. Also, her involvement with her lawyers in the courtroom show that she is active in her defense.
9. Ms. Arias' psychological makeup impaired her ability to cope with the tumultuous relationship she had with Mr. Alexander.
- being a pathological liar, a stalker, someone who invades the personal privacy of Travis, a possessive person and manipulator made the relationship tumultuous. Using her sexuality made the relationship tumultuous.
- Travis rejected her in the end and paid for it with his life.
- Her psychological makeup was one of wanting what she wanted, when she wanted and doing what she wanted to get it.
- she may have some kind of personality disorder but she is NOT mentally ill.
Her having job after job, being able to live independently, keep up her appearance to the enth degree - all show that she coped quite well.
I have copied the following from an earlier post of mine as it bears reminding to all of us and it has some additional comments...
Refuting Arias' Mitigation Factors
1. Ms. Arias has no prior criminal history.
- although no charges were laid, police were called when her family found that she was growing pot on the roof of their house
- although no charges were laid, she has admitted to peeping in Travis' window while he was with another person
- although no charges were laid, she was accused by persons of slashing Travis' and a friend's tires
- although no charges were laid immediately, she continued to lie during her police interview
- she may not have any criminal history on the books, but she engaged in criminal activity
Although not heard in the first trial, these antics have come out this time around.
2. Ms. Arias was just 27 years old when she committed her offense.
- at 3 years shy of being 3 decades old, Arias was an adult when she killed Travis.
- she had finished the schooling she wished to take
- she was employed within the workforce
- she was living her life independently from her family
- she knew right from wrong
3. Ms. Arias is remorseful for her conduct.
- Shortly after the death of Travis, she wrote a lengthy letter to the family. Although she said she felt remorse, she spent the rest of the letter detailing her relationship with Travis and more importantly, the details of his death at the hands of ninjas.
- she talked with the state and family asking for a plea deal or she would make public her accusations of Travis being an abuser, porn lover and a pedophile
- she made up three different stories of her first, non-involvement, then her ninja story and finally her self-defense story
- she lied on tests done by expert(s) to help prove she had PTSD
- she claims she is innocent and no jury would convict her
- her entire defense was that she was the victim in this case and he made her do it
- and, and, and........
In her secret testimony, she expressed some remorse. She also used her "little girl voice" and had to be asked to speak up on several occasions. This shows me that she continues to try and manipulate depending on the circumstances. it has been proven that she adapts to circumstances to benefit her. This time she was playing the jury and they will notice this when deliberating given all the evidence that came forward after her testimony.
4. Ms. Arias suffered both physical and emotional as a child.
5. Ms. Arias suffered both physical and emotional abuse during her relationship with Mr. Alexander
- In both of these factors, there has been no proof of any abuse presented with the exception of Arias' own words!
- overwhelming evidence HAS been presented that Travis was not an abusive person to anyone
- there has been no corroboration of any abuse by her family
To say that text messages from Travis were verbally abusive is a stretch. In any relationship, people say things in the heat of the moment but it does not define the entire relationship which is a two-way street.
6. The abusive nature of the relationship caused Ms. Arias to suffer extreme emotional distress at the time of the incident.
- again, abuse at the hands of Travis in their relationship comes only from Arias
- the "incident" was premeditated days/weeks in advance with Arias covering her tracks as she travelled to Mesa.
- she says the "incident" was caused as she fought for her life and it was self defense
- this was emphatically disproved by her conviction and guilty verdict of Premeditated First Degree Felony Murder with Extreme Cruelty
7. Ms. Arias has been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
8. Ms. Arias has been diagnoses with Borderline Personality Disorder
- both of these diagnoses were presented by an expert in the first trial who was proved to 1. transcribe answers to tests himself and 2. answers from Arias were based on a base lie and therefore invalid
- this also was emphatically disproved by her conviction and guilty verdict of Premeditated First Degree Felony Murder with Extreme Cruelty
The new defense strategy is to say that Arias is mentally ill and therefore cannot be executed. Under the law, it is the severity of mental illness that is considered. Many people with BPD do not go on a murder anyone. Her premeditation before and after the crime emphatically proves that she was not in any way, shape or form Severely mentally ill. Also, her involvement with her lawyers in the courtroom show that she is active in her defense.
9. Ms. Arias' psychological makeup impaired her ability to cope with the tumultuous relationship she had with Mr. Alexander.
- being a pathological liar, a stalker, someone who invades the personal privacy of Travis, a possessive person and manipulator made the relationship tumultuous. Using her sexuality made the relationship tumultuous.
- Travis rejected her in the end and paid for it with his life.
- Her psychological makeup was one of wanting what she wanted, when she wanted and doing what she wanted to get it.
- she may have some kind of personality disorder but she is NOT mentally ill.
Her having job after job, being able to live independently, keep up her appearance to the enth degree - all show that she coped quite well. I amend that she does have a mental illness as verified by Dr. DeMarte. This has been conceded in her testimony.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 02-07-2015
http://murderpedia.org/female.A/a/andriano-wendi.htm#footnote_3
Wendi Andriano, poisoned and stabbed terminally ill husband.
She was sentenced to death.
Excerpt from instructions to the jury....
"Before being given the instruction to which Andriano objects, the jurors had been instructed as follows:Although a final decision on a penalty of death or life imprisonment must be unanimous, the determination of what circumstances are mitigati[ng] is for each one of you to resolve, individually, based upon all the evidence that has been presented to you during this phase and at any of the prior phases of the trial.(Emphasis added.) The jurors were also given the following instruction:You must make your decision about whether mitigation is sufficiently substantial to call for leniency based solely upon your weighing of any mitigation proven to you and the aggravating factor you have already found during the Aggravation Phase. To do this, you must individually determine the nature and extent of mitigating circumstances. Then, in light of the aggravating circumstance that has been proven to exist, you must individually determine if the totality of the mitigating circumstances is sufficiently substantial to call for leniency and a life sentence.(Emphasis added.)Moreover, at the outset of the penalty phase, the jury was preliminarily advised that “[t]he jurors do not have to agree unanimously that a mitigating circumstance has been proven to exist. Each juror may consider any mitigating circumstance found by that juror in determining the appropriate penalty.” The jury was further instructed at that time to “individually decide whether there is mitigation and whether it is sufficiently substantial to call for the imposition of a life sentence rather than a sentence of death.”Defense counsel's closing argument in the penalty phase also correctly advised the jurors regarding their responsibilities. Defense counsel told the jury, “[t]o clarify once again, individually determine the nature and extent of the mitigating circumstances. Not as a group, individually. What is it to me, as one juror. What is my moral position on that circumstance.”
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 02-07-2015
Sorry, but had to put this together if not for anyone else but for me to put my thoughts together.
Wendi Andriano, poisoned and stabbed terminally ill husband.
She was sentenced to death.
Excerpt from instructions to the jury in her trial.
"Before being given the instruction to which Andriano objects, the jurors had been instructed as follows:
Although a final decision on a penalty of death or life imprisonment must be unanimous, the determination of what circumstances are mitigati[ng] is for each one of you to resolve, individually, based upon all the evidence that has been presented to you during this phase and at any of the prior phases of the trial.(Emphasis added.)
The jurors were also given the following instruction:
You must make your decision about whether mitigation is sufficiently substantial to call for leniency based solely upon your weighing of any mitigation proven to you and the aggravating factor you have already found during the Aggravation Phase. To do this, you must individually determine the nature and extent of mitigating circumstances.
Then, in light of the aggravating circumstance that has been proven to exist, you must individually determine if the totality of the mitigating circumstances is sufficiently substantial to call for leniency and a life sentence.(Emphasis added.)Moreover, at the outset of the penalty phase, the jury was preliminarily advised that “[t]he jurors do not have to agree unanimously that a mitigating circumstance has been proven to exist. Each juror may consider any mitigating circumstance found by that juror in determining the appropriate penalty.” The jury was further instructed at that time to “individually decide whether there is mitigation and whether it is sufficiently substantial to call for the imposition of a life sentence rather than a sentence of death.”Defense counsel's closing argument in the penalty phase also correctly advised the jurors regarding their responsibilities. Defense counsel told the jury, “[t]o clarify once again, individually determine the nature and extent of the mitigating circumstances. Not as a group, individually. What is it to me, as one juror. What is my moral position on that circumstance.”
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So.....
"...the determination of what circumstances are mitigati[ng] is for each one of you to resolve, individually, based upon all the evidence that has been presented to you during this phase and at any of the prior phases of the trial..."
Jurors must individually determine their opinions on what circumstances are mitigating and then come together and determine a unanimous decision.
The methodical premeditation of Arias' crime has been provided and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Her behaviour of lying, stalking, being intrusive and manipulative has also been proven.
The measures that she went to cover-up her crime have been proven.
"You must make your decision about whether mitigation is sufficiently substantial to call for leniency based solely upon your weighing of any mitigation proven to you and the aggravating factor you have already found during the Aggravation Phase."
First of all, this jury did not have anything to do with the conviction of Arias and thus, they themselves did not find the aggravating factor of Extreme Cruelty.
However, they must consider the aggravating factor in their deliberations in this trial as that is part of her conviction.
Secondly, it is important to note that the weight of the mitigation evidence provided is what is important in their determining Arias' sentence.
"Then, in light of the aggravating circumstance that has been proven to exist, you must individually determine if the totality of the mitigating circumstances is sufficiently substantial to call for leniency and a life sentence.(Emphasis added.)Moreover, at the outset of the penalty phase, the jury was preliminarily advised that “[t]he jurors do not have to agree unanimously that a mitigating circumstance has been proven to exist. Each juror may consider any mitigating circumstance found by that juror in determining the appropriate penalty.”
Again, the aggravating circumstance of Extreme Cruelty in this case is of the utmost importance.
Although the end verdict must be unanimous, when deliberating, they can consider the opinions of other jurors.
The aggravating circumstance will be brought back into the courtroom by Martinez complete with photos of the slaughtered Travis.
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Here are the Mitigating Factors presented by the Defense (Arias) in this case.
1. Ms. Arias has no prior criminal history.
- evidence was presented regarding slashing of tires, hacking into Travis' computer and emails, sneaking into his house and peeping into his windows
2. Ms. Arias was just 27 years old when she committed her offense.
- age is not a factor as she is considered an adult under the eyes of the law and even society
- she is not a "child killer"
3. Ms. Arias is remorseful for her conduct.
- evidence has been presented with her letter to the family, attendance at Travis' Memorial Service, her acts of resuming a normal life after her crime and her interviews where she claims innocence and no jury will convict her are all examples of the lack of remorse
- claiming DV and self defense in the first trial and now the claim of mental illness show that she is not taking any responsibility for her actions
- her secret testimony in her "little girl voice" shows she continues to try and manipulate the case and the jury
4. Ms. Arias suffered both physical and emotional as a child.
- evidence has been presented showing that no one saw any evidence of child abuse
- there is absolutely no corroboration to this factor
- the only evidence submitted by the defense team are the words of Arias herself
5. Ms. Arias suffered both physical and emotional abuse during her relationship with Mr. Alexander
- NO evidence of either of these has been presented with the exception of Arias' own words
- although Travis was very blunt in some of his messages to her, it is normal behaviour in most relationships and done in the heat of the moment when one gets so frustrated with behaviours
6. The abusive nature of the relationship caused Ms. Arias to suffer extreme emotional distress at the time of the incident.
- Evidence was presented of her methodical premeditation of her crime.
-evidence was presented of her actions when committing her crime (29 stab wounds, slitting of throat, shooting in the head and then the actions of destroying evidence and stealing evidence when she left and disposing of it
- there is no evidence of extreme emotional distress at the time of the incident
7. Ms. Arias has been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
8. Ms. Arias has been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder
- evidence presented shows no PTSD
- Arias lied on tests and/or was lead by the examiner to give the desired answers
- yes, Arias is diagnosed with BPD and yes, it can be considered a mental illness but is more commonly associated with being a personality disorder
- evidence has been presented that she knew, emphatically, right from wrong
9. Ms. Arias' psychological makeup impaired her ability to cope with the tumultuous relationship she had with Mr. Alexander.
- evidence of a tumultuous relationship with Travis has been proven to be of her own making, by her own actions
- evidence has been presented that she has had many tumultuous relationships
- evidence has been presented that she carried on with her life, in her own way, during her relationship with Travis
My question would be....
Isn't it obvious that the evidence presented far outweighs the defense's (Arias') mitigating factors?
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 02-08-2015
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skhlan
Excellent!
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Observer - 02-08-2015
(02-08-2015, 04:13 PM)NERN Wrote: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skhlan
Excellent!
Thanks for holding down the fort and thanks for all your great posts. I like Zoey Watson's twitterlong posts. She is always insightful.
She made some excellent points about Nurmi turning off the jury by calling Dr. Demarte Dr. Death and implying she is a young whippersnapper who knows nothing compared to his older experienced wise experts.
Not only does it make him look like a bully but it makes him look stupid.
1- You don't bite off the head of the only expert that is providing you with a possible way for your client to escape the needle. Afterall, DeMarte is the only witness who can prove the only valid mitigator Jodi Arias has: mental illness aka Borderline Personality Disorder.
2- DeMarte is like a child protegy like Watson pointed out. At a young age, by being a supervisor and a teacher, DeMarte has accomplished much in her young age.
3- She is the only psychologist the jury has heard from who came across professional, objective and like a real expert.
The defense psychologist No. 1, Dr. Miccio-Fonesca, a sexpert, didn't even test Jodi Arias. She was recruited to say Travis Alexander was a pedophile but she even said he wasn't a pedophile and that she was just there to give her professional opinion on the sexual relationship between Arias and Alexander. All she did was analyze the text messages and come to the conclusion Travis Alexander had a jekyl and Hyde personality - T Dog was the sexual animal, that he was only interested in sex where Arias wanted love and that unrequited love leads to homicide. She came across as anything but a professional. She babbled on like a senile old lady and ignored Martinez questions and was offended when he brought up that she was forgetful and unprofessional in that she was psychoanalyzing a dead guy she hadn't even met. She came across biased and childlike.
The defense psychologist No. 2, Dr. Robert Geffner, smiled and laughed at inappropriate times and appeared to be scattered and forgetful also. He slipped and said Arias scored high on psychopathy and he also said her friends thought she was Bi Polar and so did he, but his test didn't show that. He diagnosed her as having PTSD based on Samuels test which was based on the Ninja story which was made up. So if she was having flashbacks of two Ninjas bursting into the house, that was a lie anyway. Like DeMarte said she couldn't have gone back into Alexander's house where she slaughtered him after the memorial if she had PTSD and she didn't seem anxious like most PTSD patients.
4- DeMarte's diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder and her common sense analysis of Jodi Arias based on not only tests but interviews with her about her childhood and interviews with Arias maternal grandparents, cousin, Sky Hughes, Lisa Daidone, Taylor Searle, Zach Billings regarding Arias behavior makes much more sense than Fonesca's and Geffner's skewed "opinion" that is biased and designed to make Alexander look like the villain and Arias like the victim.
As for the aggravators, from what I've read of the juror instructions: the only aggravator the jurors can consider is the extreme cruelty and the only mitigators that they can consider are the ones the defense has listed. The only valid one is the mental illness and I think in re-direct Martinez will lead DeMarte to explain that she is only neurotic and not psychotic and the premeditation shows she knew right from wrong and they can see her whispering with Wilmott and De La Rosa so they know she is competent enough to help her legal team. She is not acting in the courtroom like a crazy person. Even those who do act like crazy people in front of the jury like Manson, Wuornos and the last cop killer Martinez sent to death row still get the death penalty. Manson originally got the death penalty but when California abolished the death penalty for a short period his sentence was commuted to life with the possibility of parole.
The repeated evidence and testimony from the murder trial just helps them see why she was convicted of premeditated and felony first degree murder. I think the premeditation and cover-up will be important to decide if Arias is truly remorseful since they can't believe a word she says since she has lied so much.
The extreme cruelty will be brought home in Martinez closing statement with the autopsy pictures and the two minutes of silence to show how long Alexander suffered as he crawled and staggered from the shower to the bedroom rug where he bled out as she chased him and relentlessly stabbed him 29 times and slit his throat. He was already dead when she shot him in the head, according to the medical examiner, so his suffering stopped after he bled out on the rug and then she dragged his body to the shower to wash off all the evidence and cleaned up the blood off the floor and then threw the bedding, his clothing and camera in the washer, grabbed the gun and knives and took off.
I am sure the extreme cruelty that Alexander suffered will trump a personality disorder, her age and the abuse that the jury already knows never happened which is apparent from their questions of Geffner and Fonesca. We will get more insight into what this jury got from DeMarte's testimony when they ask her questions following Nurmi's cross exam and Martinez re-direct. The last jurors had over 100 questions of Arias and this jury only had three questions, which will never be answered because she refuses to take the stand again and be cross examined by Martinez and questioned by the jury. That may cause the jurors to just write off everything she said as one big fat lie like the I was never there, the Ninja story, the email to Abe that he never got and all the lies to Alexander about not being violent and slashing his tires and stalking him.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - duluth45 - 02-08-2015
(02-07-2015, 04:29 AM)Justice Wrote:(02-06-2015, 01:30 PM)Observer Wrote: Prosecution’s witnesses testimony in case for the death penalty in a nutshell:
Dr. Kevin Horne: Travis Alexander suffered 11 stab wounds to his upper back between the shoulder blades, two stab wounds to the top and back of his head, one stab wound to the back of his neck and ear, four stab wounds to the heart and chest, three stab wounds to the belly, one stab wound across the throat, which severed the right carotid artery and airway, five defensive wounds to the hands and one single gunshot wound to the head.
He was killed three times over. Either the stab to the heart, the slit throat or the bullet in the brain could have killed him. He was alive when the knife was plunged into his heart and his throat was slit but he was dead when the bullet was fired into his brain. He suffered excruciating pain for two minutes.
Detective Estevan Flores: Bloody Arias palm print on bathroom wall matches that of Jodi Arias and the blood is a mixture of Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander’s blood. Bullet casing found lying on top of blood came from a .25 caliber gun just like the gun stolen in a burglary at the home of Jodi Arias grandparents where she was living. Arias’ hair was found in the shower. Pictures were found on Travis Alexander’s camera of Arias naked and Travis Alexander naked and pictures of Alexander taken seconds before and while he was being stabbed to death, which place Arias at the scene.
Yreka Detective – Arias grandfather reported a burglary at his home a week before the murder and the only item stolen was a .25 caliber gun identical to the one Arias used to shoot Travis Alexander a week later.
Ryan Byrnes- Arias called him a week before the murder and said she was coming to visit him in Salt Lake City. She left June 3 and he had no communication with her for 20 hours until she showed up at his house June 5. She was stopped by a cop because her license plates in back were upside down. She wore band aides to cover two cuts on her fingers. She grinded with him and appeared normal.
Rental car agent – Arias rented a car 100 miles from her home with blonde hair and returned it with the floor mats missing and a red stain.
Darrell Brewer- Arias called him a week before the murder and asked to borrow two gas cans and picked them up on her way to kill Travis Alexander.
Wal-Mart employee – Arias bought a gas can at a Salinas. CA store but never returned it.
Bishop Vernon Parker – There was no kiddy porn on his computer and Travis Alexander was not responsible for pop ups of scantily clad women similar to ads you see in a J.C. Penny catalogue and did not live in his house when a defense witness claims he confessed to being sexually abused as a child and to being responsible for putting kiddy porn on the bishop’s computer.
Deanna Reid- Travis Alexander never put his hands on her in an offensive way and she never met Marc McGee who said in an affidavit he witnessed Travis Alexander curse and yell at Deanna, knee her in the stomach and hurt her wrist.
Dr. Janeen DeMarte – Jodi Arias has a pattern of pursuing men, stalking them when they try to leave her, has a fear of abandonment and bursts of angry violence, gets involved with men too quickly and then devalues them and she devalued Travis Alexander by murdering him. She never reported any child abuse to any of the several psychologists who evaluated her and she told conflicting stories about domestic violence abuse and there is no evidence that she was ever abused by Travis Alexander.
Defense’s witness statements for mitigation:
Jodi Arias – She killed Travis Alexander and only lied to the police, friends, family and the media and denied killing Travis Alexander for two years because she couldn’t face that she had committed this horrific crime and she wishes she could do that day over again. It isn’t her fault because her mean mother beat her with a wooden spoon and smoked pot the day she was born and her violent father used cocaine, beat her with a belt and threw her against a wall and Travis Alexander cheated on her.
Dr. Miccio-Fonseca- Jodi Arias killed Travis Alexander because unrequited love leads to homicide. She wanted love. He just wanted sex. Travis Alexander had a jeckyl and hyde personality – T Dog and Travis Alexander. Jodi Arias “suffered in silence.”
Dr. Robert Geffner – Jodi Arias does not have a personality disorder. She has PTSD. Travis Alexander used and abused her and she was just after love and cuddles. Coworkers said she was a wonderful employee. A friend of Travis Alexander’s says Alexander confessed to him he was molested as a child and the child porn on the bishop’s computer was his. Carl, Arias brother, said that their father beat them with a belt and a friend of Carl’s said he witnessed Bill Arias throw Carl against a refrigerator.
John Smith, computer expert – There was porn on Travis Alexander’s computer.
The jury is charged with determining if the mitigators outweigh the aggravators.
It seems to me the state’s aggravators weighs a ton where the defense’s mitigators are light as a feather.
If the jurors do their job, death row is a very strong possibility.
Observer, Thanks for laying out the aggravating and migitating factors. Its nice to have them laid out together. if (and I repeat IF) Dr. Robert Geffner does get recalled by the defense, and IF he now says Arias does have a personality disorder as well as PTSD, then that would be definitely changing his sworn testimony. He was adamant that she does not have BPD. So, all Juan has to do is put the transcript up, showing that Geffner, indeed, did say that
And I'm sure the jurors will easily understand that!
In my opinion, the defense claiming PTSD was a damaging 'mitigator'. Very damaging. Even if she did, which she does not, she would have been stricken with it AFTER she ambushed and killed Travis so brutally. That meant nothing on the day she slithered into his bathroom and attacked him with 29 stab wounds, almost decapitated him, drug him back into the shower and then shot him in the face. It was very silly to offer that as a mitigator.
Add to that the fact that she was put in the psycho ward for 2 or 3 days, after Sheriff Joe heard her say she wanted to die or something like that. All that time, she was being watched and evaluated. Apparently, the people who evaluated her there determined she was not a threat to herself and she was sent back to the jail....TO AWAIT TRIAL. So, to offer a mitigating factor of PTSD was silly, in my opinion. PTSD did not cause her to commit the brutal murder!
Observer, on the blog before it crashed, one time you had posted the timeline of the original trial. Would you be so kind as to repost that here? I would love to have it. I didn't print it out or copy it off (I don't even know if that would have been possible) but I would love to refer back to it if possible.
It took me a while to figure out that you guys were posting here. I am no genius on these things. I went through shock when the blog crashed, people!
I am so grateful that Dr. DeMarte was able to say factual evidence that Arias was the stalker and Travis did try his best to get rid of her. So much the opposite of what Lavilette and the two male psychologists insist, isn't it? What world are they living in?
Did my question to Observer post, I wonder? I am so new to this.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 02-08-2015
I believe that the "Dr. Death" remark from Nurmi so infuriated Arias that it is the reason she sort of had a "melt down" and wouldn't come back into the courtroom.
She is not done yet and will pull more stunts before this is over.
I am trusting that the law will stand when it comes to the mitigating factor of mental illness with the jury.
The weight of the mental illness factor does not out-weight the aggravating factor in this case.
Also, DeMarte, although conceding that BPD can be considered a mental illness, continually stated that it is more commonly considered a disorder.
Arias has BPD, I do not dispute that, but it does not and has not impeded her ability to live a normal life.
It did not impede her ability to meticulously premeditate her crime.
It did not impede her ability to attack Travis and kill him 3 times.
It did not impede her to destroy evidence and steal evidence.
It did not impede her many actions of covering up her tracks.
Yes, Martinez will bring in the photos and detailed synopsis of the attack on Travis. He will show that the extreme cruelty trumps ANY mitigating factor.
He will again bring in the letter to the family which demonstrates beyond a shadow of doubt, Arias' lack of remorse.
Recalling the 2 "experts" and possibly Abe and Deanna will do nothing but cause more delays by the defense (Arias).
The longer that the defense takes in their recalling of witnesses and questioning, the more mistakes they make. This makes it far easier for Martinez to bring in evidence to dispute the defense's (Arias') case. They are so entrenched in their strategy that they don't see how they continually screw up.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Observer - 02-08-2015
Duluth, I am so glad you found us. Now our family is back and we have some new family members. So maybe the crash got us on somebody's radar.
I'm sorry I didn't keep the information on the timeline and I can't remember where I got the information. I believe Lunarscope said he posted it on another blog. Maybe he can copy and past the post if he can find it.
I was mistaken on the aggravators. The only aggravator is extreme cruelty. It is still much stronger than the bogus mitigators Arias defense has listed.
What I listed in the post you quoted was the state's case vs the defense case. The state's case is much stronger because it is built with the truth and the defense case is built out of lies which will come crashing down like dominoes.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 02-08-2015
Hey Duluth - SO GLAD THAT YOU ARE BACK!