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RE: End is Near Hopefully - Lunarscope - 03-15-2015
Thanks All' I needed to redeem myself after posting 'all over the map' theirs just so much info and that was a lucky find!
I just posted 2 on JDT;
Here's the best' I titled a topic in reference to (((hugs))) on JII!
((((($Money$)))))
#FOLLOWTHEMONEY "@juanstie: So that's how MDLR does it ... Screen Shot sent to the IRS... #JodiArias in trouble. MDLR too.
pic.twitter.com/n9AmVqhh9Y"
And the top half with link was already posted here, I pasted entirety!
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Just find the very last part of recording, about JSS being told a jury official told Martinez that a court official told the Jury Foreman (first trial) that charges should have been 2 degree manslaughter and that Martinez deserved 27 stabs!
Jodi Arias Pre-Trial Hearing, Oct 6
Discusses Marc McGee and how he's being "harassed" on Facebook.
https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dv4Dc7F9-kws%26feature%3Dyoutu.be%26a&h=oAQGkyPNw&s=1
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JSS sealed the juror questionnaires... and oddly, this curious little docket entry popped up on JA's Court Docket.
... Filing Date ...................................................................... Docket Date ...
* 10/1/2014 SDO - Order to Seal Documents - Party (001) 3/12/2015
NOTE: JUROR QUESTIONNAIRES
... Filing Date ...................................................................... Docket Date ...
* 9/29/2014 SDO - Order to Seal Documents - Party (001) 3/12/2015
NOTE: JUROR QUESTIONNAIRES
@ Why were the juror questionnaires sealed on 2 separate dates
Their are two juries and alternates being quiet, release of video retracted then reposted for when a juror was (?#17?) dismissed only to return? Theirs trial footages being secreted!
If SJ or MDLR got to #17 its hung-verdict reversal, but' time will tell, Jodi was to go directly to Prison but now a day later with newscasters promising helicopter precession coverage! Their will be packed sidewalks all the way, Arizona is in the spotlight and must step up to the plate!
Plus all of Jodis finances are reported April 13 for formal sentencing, even GB got greedy!
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 03-15-2015
Justice,
It is my personal opinion that JSS knows - knows - full well who and what Arias is.
She has been privy to so much for so long and had to keep her mouth shut.
She has already put on record that she knows Arias was manipulating the court in every way.
I believe she will give LWOP and a tongue lashing to Arias - and possibly her defense team as well.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Lunarscope - 03-15-2015
I never considered 25 year a possible sentence, on the chance that JSS would even consider, Jodi was driving in hot weather with 15 gallons of inflammable = gas' not flammable = diesel, that equated over 200 sticks of dynamite' that's a theorist, she drove thru tunnels and in traffic, no way is she ever getting released, then the murder!
I bet Jodi gets Arizona Prison and her cohorts get Federal Prison, likely a dozen or more, Jury tampering is no joke, it grounds the court system in America, this floundering must be salvageable!
RE: End is Near Hopefully - duluth45 - 03-15-2015
I am so looking forward to Arias being in Court April 13th in stripes. Just saying. After looking at the latest video Lunarscope posted, it is just so right.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 03-15-2015
I totally agree with you Duluth - stripes and shackles!
Apparently #17 is being interviewed tonight on local 12 at 10 p.m.
Hope someone records and posts cause I cannot get it.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - duluth45 - 03-16-2015
Nern, I am so past Juror 17. I don't think they, the authorities, will really get into it and will let her just pass. Regardless, the murderer is a convicted first degree murderer no matter what lies she and hers told. This is so wonderful that I can't tell you. If by some miracle, the authorities do a really good detective job, then we'll see.
I reiterate: I want to see that worthless, no good, lying murderer in stripes. And in Perryville prison.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Lunarscope - 03-16-2015
Jury Tampering is a Federal Offence, Perryville may not be the way to go, I wanted stripes all along (handcuffs on her so called ' carpal symptoms) but I just want her out of the news (not having ability to hide behind her hair' would be pleasing) and quarantined' for now on.
I think alot said about JSS has some merit' but I believe when all is said and done (her being a honest person is unquestioned) the reality will be that she was surrounded by Covert Subversion, Collusion and Subterfuge during a trial that held president, it was her first DP as Judge trial. Highest profile is tough' especially with ease of multimedia dissecting everyone, curtailing the circus became a circus of speculation!
Wouldn't it be great if Martinez for a Federal Judge questioned SJ at Jodis hearing, 'as in! Simon what do you do for a living, well for the last 20 years I have a very lucrative enterprise of coning Americans with get rich quick schemes, while hiding-out overseas from federal warrants and start fan clubs for murderers!
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Lunarscope - 03-16-2015
Link for #17 on news is not out, but here is one of #17 questioned by Martinez in jury selection process!
Juror #17 was #138, start at 8 minute mark!
https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dn7jqGuEniFA%26feature%3Dyoutu.be%26a&h=IAQF5lCpX&enc=AZPTVMk2jlbzeHE2Xr1nb3lHCUTjN-sCGBgG5tva2kqHeur2CyWj8ZZ1jrSKnepkLPg&s=1
Jeff Gold posting is brief excerpts' (story is not out) here is the third, it doesn't show her face' no news here just the link for in-case!
http://t.co/11j51AV2fy
All jurors swore not to know Jodi or Martinez and court participants' if that Matters, but Jodi was at Jury selection allowed to take notes and swapped notes with MDLR, end of jury selection link in final few minutes' they seam to act like buddies!
RE: End is Near Hopefully - NERN - 03-16-2015
thank you Lunarscope for posting the links.
The first was hard to hear but she was very forthcoming on the legal status of her two husbands.
The second was easier to hear and I find it interesting that as jurors attend the courthouse, they are totally unaware of what case they are to be interviewed for.
She knew that probably the Arias case could be one of them but her thoughts were "what are the odds" of her being called for the Arias trial.
To me that is extremely plausible and makes sense.
In the follow-up segment regarding her husband being prosecuted by Juan Martinez in his case, he struck a plea deal and was sentenced to 4 months plus probation.
It is possible that she did not know who was the state's rep. in her husband's case as it never went to trial.
I find it also interesting that his sentence was for a short term, making his offense not as serious as it has been made out to be.
Maricopa is investigating as it should be.
RE: End is Near Hopefully - Lunarscope - 03-16-2015
Nern I think #17 did some wrong' like talking to her husband about the case daily and watching media, she became charmed or from DV scared to not disappoint, I don't expect much legal punishment, she will face the reactionaries' her needing a attorney and hiding her face is setting-up a defense for scaling public opinion, attorney ammunition!
More importantly' here is a good read and Janet the court assistant is discussed!
Janet W. is all I have so far, that's unless their were 2 Janets that worked both trials, but this is a good read and it relates to Janet!
The Jodi Arias Death Penalty Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective
by The 13th Juror MD
DAY 39
“ABDICATION OF ALLOCUTION”
The jury of sixteen will each have something in common as they returned from the weekend to play their part in the Jodi Arias death penalty retrial. There will be a common thread among each of angst that reveals itself in butterflies of the stomach. It makes a juror edgy and even irritable. Thoughts of being an alternate consume their heads. When are the alternates going to be chosen? Which four out of the sixteen will succumb to the dark halls of being “on call”, denying his or her contribution to justice? Some will make deals with God not to be chosen as an alternate. Others will pay closer attention to superstitious signs such as the appearance of the unlucky number of thirteen.
It is quite an unanticipated feeling of nervousness. It is astronomically more stressful than the period of jury selection. I say this based on going through the identical process in the trial of Marissa DeVault and her brutal killing of Dale Harrell. Our alternates were chosen in the first phase of premeditation. This trial, being only a retrial of the third phase, forces the alternates to be chosen at the end of closing arguments. The jury has probably learned that by now so each will have issues trying to sleep tonight.
The jury was told to be here by 9:15 AM.
Janet, the Judicial Assistant, arrived in the public overflow room at five after ten. She introduced herself to those in attendance and repeated the rules of decorum in the courtroom by those attending as the public. She explained that there were to be no beverages but bottled water, no conversation of any nature, no pictures or recording of the trial and a warning to watch speaking in public areas. Jurors could be walking about and a trial could be in peril for things said and heard. She additionally mentioned that there were to be no racial slurs. She escorted us to the fifth floor.
We were sat in the courtroom and the first thing I noticed was the defendant not being present. The jury was not in their seats. Maria de la Rosa, the mitigation specialist, was not present. I saw Detective Flores, Juan Martinez and their superior seated at the prosecution table. Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott were walking in and out of the courtroom.
My pen was in hand and legal pad was ready for notes. Twenty minutes later, Janet and Randy, the Bailiff, were having a discussion with a Public Information Officer in the front of the courtroom. They left the courtroom through one of the doors by the judge’s bench. Another public information officer sat in the back of the media area.
A short time later, Kirk Nurmi came walking in from the back of the courtroom wearing a tan suit, yellow shirt and colorful orange colored tie. It was not a Jerry Garcia tie but could have been in its ostentation. Moments after that, Judge Stephens came in through the door behind the bench and we stood as ordered by Randy. The judge sat down and busied herself while Kirk Nurmi was having things copied with the other Judicial Assistant.
The defendant, Jodi Arias, was still not present. Jennifer Willmott and the mitigation specialist were absent. I thought of the jury sitting in the jury room for an hour and a half. Some would be contenting themselves with the treats judges always leave for the jury on Mondays. Others would be irritably looking at their watches wondering why court never started on time.
I heard a fairly loud voice behind me. I knew the voice and was a bit surprised at the tone and that it was done in the presence of the media and those of us in the gallery. Janet was speaking to the victim advocate for the family. She is a tall lady with curly hair, dressed in a blue, conservative pant suit, and has sat in the second row behind the family of Travis Alexander every single day of the trial. She has never been anything less than professional or polite.
Janet was explaining to her in a contemptuous voice that seating had been decided prior to the trial and it was not something to be discussed. The family’s victim advocate politely asked who she should speak and Janet said, in no uncertain terms, that she would talk to the judge. It certainly enhanced the tenseness that could be felt in the courtroom.
Finally, the defendant appeared and was lead to her seat, an armed guard behind her. She was dressed in a dark blue sweater top with loose fitting black pants. Jennifer Willmott and Maria de la Rosa marched in from the back of the courtroom and took their seats at the defense table.
“Please approach,” Judge Stephens told the teams of attorneys.
I waited patiently and wondered about the jury who had still not seen hide nor hare of the courtroom. The bench conference went on for ten minutes when Judge Stevens announced that they were going to deal with a “juror issue”. We watched as both teams of attorneys and Arias left the courtroom, including some from the family of Travis Alexander.
Setting down my pen and paper, I decided to get updated on Twitter and Facebook. In that process, I learned that two jurors had been dismissed and final arguments would be tomorrow. A reporter said he saw a female juror crying in the hallway.
One can only speculate what happened. There may have been a compromise of some sort. Maybe one juror was talking to another. It is possible that both had to be excused for personal reasons. Who would know if one was sick and asked to be excused? It is all speculation. I would not be surprised if every juror was interviewed one by one in front of the judge, both sides of attorneys and a court reporter. It is a magnificently intimidating experience.
A short time after that, the judge and the court entourage appeared from the doors in front of the courtroom. Arias went to the defense table, picked up a stack of folders, smiled at her family in the front row and was escorted by a guard to her side door. The judge and attorneys proceeded to have a lengthy sidebar, each holding a stack of papers. I would be guessing but the papers looked much like the thickness of jury instructions that we received in the DeVault trial.
The judge recessed the court for lunch.
The tension did not decrease when court resumed at one thirty. The first thing we witnessed was another lengthy sidebar at the bench. Kirk Nurmi handed the judge a phone and directed her attention to the screen, gesticulating in frustration. The judge looked out over the gallery and Kirk Nurmi followed suit. Moments later, the head of security and a Public information Officer went to the bench and joined in the mysterious discussion. I was amazed at how few notes I had gotten yet so much information had been gleaned from Twitter.
The jury was finally called in at two in the afternoon. It took them a minute to adjust to their seating positions because the first row now was missing juror number five and the back row was missing juror number twelve. The seats were vacant and the reasons would be a mystery to us watching as well as those remaining on the jury. One might think there would be additional tensions in the jury but many would look on the colored side of the equation thinking that their chances of being picked as an alternate were now reduced by fifty percent. There would be relief in many jurors minds rather than discouragement in seeing their comrades of justice vanish.
Jennifer Willmott walked over to a projector and put a document on the screen. The judge explained to the jury that the evidence they were seeing would be given to them in the jury room. It would not be explained but was evidence for them to see. They were to read the evidence to themselves.
I think the jury was happy to being doing something rather than being held in the confines of the jury room. I noticed all of them vigorously taking notes from the screen in front of them.
The first was a statement from Susan Halerman stating that she had found a phone in between the seats of her car. She realized it was probably the phone of Jodi Arias and turned it over to Arias’ defense attorneys. The statement was then topped off by an affidavit signed by the witness’ mother that it was true and correct. She signed her affidavit on February 10, 2015. I surmised that this was the phone that the sex tape had been recorded on.
Judge Stevens asked the jury if they had read the document. Jennifer Willmott then replaced the exhibit with number 962. The defense attorney’s blue fingernails could be seen as she adjusted it on the screen. Again, the jury busily took their notes.
The second statement was from a guest of Bishop Parker regarding his home in Riverside, California. The witness stated that he knew who Travis Alexander was and had sat across him at dinner on at least one occasion. His statement said that Bishop Parker had taken a series of engagement pictures using a digital camera and these pictures were lost in the process of a computer crash.
Jennifer Willmott took the exhibit off the screen.
Kirk Nurmi stood up. “The defense rests, your Honor.”
Judge Stephens excused the jury, telling them to go back for a short recess. She waited until Randy, the Bailiff, closed the door behind the jury after they left. She took her glasses off and looked toward Jodi Arias, the defendant. “Miss Arias, I understand that you do not want to allocate?”
Arias stood up with her hands clasped in front of her. “That is not correct,” she said.
Judge Stephens put her glasses back on and looked at the defendant. “Then you wish to make a statement of allocution in front of a jury?” she corrected as a question. “What are your conditions?”
“The same as before,” Arias responded.
“Do you have any reasons aside from what you previously stated?”
“No, they are the same reasons.”
“Miss Arias,” Judge Stephens explained. “We have said that we can clear the courtroom and put the public and media in the overflow room so that you may allocate in front of the jury. This court cannot exclude the public or media beyond that. I am not going against what the higher courts have ordered. Why is that a problem for you?”
“I cannot do that,” Arias stated. Her voice was soft in comparison to when I had seen her speak to the judge many months ago when she represented herself as her own attorney during preliminary hearings.
“Have you consulted with your attorneys?”
“I have,” she answered.
Judge Stephens leaned forward over her bench. She spoke clearly and succinctly. “Do you understand that your statement of allocution is something that is not done under oath?”
“Yes,” Arias answered.
“Do you further understand that your statement is not subject to cross examination by the prosecution?”
Arias answered meekly in the affirmative again.
“It is important that you know you have a right to allocate,” Judge Stephens explained carefully. “This is your opportunity to get in front of the jury. You may show remorse, make a plea for mercy, explain the crime and bring any mitigating circumstances to the attention of the jury. Do you understand that?”
“I do,” Arias answered softly. “It must be under the conditions that I have previously stated.”
“You may not allocate in closed proceedings. You are stating to the court that you do not wish to testify in front of the public in spite of the option the court has given you?” the judge asked.
“No.”
“For the record,” she clarified with Arias, “you do not wish to allocate based on the same reasons stated on October 30, 2014?”
“Yes,” she answered.
Judge Stephens maneuvered some paperwork while Arias sat down. The court waited silently.
“Bring in the jury,” she ordered.
The jury was brought out only to be dismissed until the usual time in the morning. I will bet they were extremely relieved. Although they had spent little time on the floor, the trauma of the interrogation and the dismissal of two jurors had to have weighed on their minds. Many were happy that two had been dismissed as it reduced their chances of being selected as an alternate. Unfortunately, they still carried the tension of the impending lottery.
“Miss Arias,” Judge Stephens said after the jury departed.
She stood up from the defense table.
“I will ask you again. Do you understand that your statement to the jury does not require you to be under oath? And, do you understand that you will not be cross examined? Does that change your decision?”
Arias shook her head, “No.”
Court closed with Judge Stephens and the attorneys discussing the semantics of juror instructions, the packet that would be issued to each juror after the closing arguments tomorrow. White noise hissed above our heads.
The jury will not know that a Statement of Allocution exists for the defendant. They are barely given a calendar much less a list of legal options available. This, in itself, will not be problematic to them. Contrarily, the incomplete testimony of October, 2014, will create a significant problem for them.
That is not to say that the Statement of Allocution lacks value. I, with fourteen others, witnessed a Statement of Allocution from Marissa DeVault in the hammer killing trial. There came a day, without notice, that she stood in front of us and made a plea for her life, accepted responsibility for the killing of Dale Harrell and recognized the harm that she caused. There is nothing like the feeling of the power and depth of someone who stands in front of you and makes such a plea. It is surreal to sit in a jury box when you are searching a killer’s eyes for some sort of truth.
I remember DeVault and every moment of her allocution as if it were yesterday. The primary thought in my mind was that she was a liar and I would not believe a word she said. I would not feel empathy or sympathy. I only wanted to hear from her soul this elusive thing called remorse. Somehow, the killer managed to reach me as an individual and I concluded that her tears of pain did expose a truthfulness in her admitting the crime. Its weight was small in the deliberation room but did add to the other mitigating factors we weighed.
It is a hard truth to admit when a juror realizes that they had been duped in allocution as I was. DeVault was sentenced on June 6, 2014. I watched as she turned on her “State of Allocution” face as she feigned great sadness and remorse to Judge Roland Steinle III. I was angered when I realized she had five years to fake her emotional plea for life. On one hand, it was fortunate that mitigating factors existed aside from that, that the reasoning for our giving life was based only partially on her plea. There was exhilaration in my heart when the judge recognized her plea of mercy as another form of her manipulating the jury.
The lack of a Statement of Allocution is significantly less damaging than one filled with lies. That is the simple truth DeVault taught me.
Jurors in this trial will sleep restlessly. They know that their time for service is drawing nigh. Their work is soon to begin in rectifying the cruel death of Travis Alexander against the mitigating factors of Jodi Arias. All they have to do is make it past the alternate selection process. They are anxious to deliberate. Their mind is weighted with the process of searching for answers to get something beyond resolution so that they may sleep peacefully every night for the rest of their lives. They do not want to hang and they want to make the right decision.
I have every confidence that they will.
The worst thing the defendant could have done was not in her abdication of allocution but in her refusing to complete her testimony of many months ago. It is this factor that will force the jury to stare at the most important mitigating factors that could have saved her life. The first is ownership of the crime and the second is remorse for that deed. This will anger the jury and be the cause of heated discussion. There will be those that will argue vehemently over what message they have received. That lack of a message speaks volumes to hiding from the crime and manipulating the jury. The defendant has mere hours to change her mind. Once closing arguments are completed, her time will have run out.
The jury is not stupid and the jury knows what job they have to do.
In a sidebar note, I rarely heard from Juan Martinez throughout the day. The court was tense and voices were hushed. Kirk Nurmi’s face was seen frowned in frustration while Jennifer Willmott looked resolute but rigid. Bailiffs, judicial assistants, security and public information officers were kept busy about their tasks.
Yet, Juan Martinez looked calm and his affect contrasted the vibrations in the courtroom. He looks ready.
Tomorrow, Juan Martinez speaks for Travis Alexander, his family and the punishment that should be rendered for this senseless death.
It will be a good day for justice…
“Every good relationship that develops as a result of this Trial is the
manifestation of the Spirit of Travis Alexander.”
Justice 4 Travis Alexander…
Justice for Dale…
Paul A. Sanders, Jr.
The 13th Juror @The13thJurorMD