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I'm trying to find the Spreecast' = slow way to follow, that Troy yesterday posted on Twitter' it was verdict-watch timeframe recorded, Troy posted it yesterday to answer about his interview with, Cassandra' I didn't save the link, Troy said MDLR tweeting in courtroom (= on JII) and Perryville classification, their was more' I only watched the Spreecasts final 15 minutes!

Just a thought Lunarscope.

If the laws have been updated, then would you not think the webpage for the Arizona Executive Clemency Board would have updated their information by now?

(03-31-2015, 03:20 PM)NERN Wrote: [ -> ]Just a thought Lunarscope.

If the laws have been updated, then would you not think the webpage for the Arizona Executive Clemency Board would have updated their information by now?

Not according to JSS during first trials verdict watch or the mini-trial for jury, and all reports back then, plus retrial verdict watch, Arizona has no Parole for adults' and most do not know Arizona has a active  juvenile parole board, but I do, l would expect if a juvenile was considered for option of parole' that Juvenile would be of adult age.

I don't know what other word to use than Cult' and I like that it's a four-letter word, I do think this is Federal money laundering, GB, SW and others have been off the internet for a week, Simon is a big fish to catch but he scams illegally' the priority was small before Jodi, word is #17 investigation over, but I don't like the source who is a Travis supporter' thou, still wait but informing what's spread.

https://corrections.az.gov/location/unit/113/lumley-unit

Lumley Unit
Location
Perryville

Phase I inmates:
1 four hour block of visitation on either Saturday or Sunday
Phase II inmates:
3 four hour blocks of visitation on either Saturday or Sunday*
*Lumley Close Custody – 2 visits per week
*Lumley Max custody 1 two hour Non Contact Visit
Phase III inmates:
4 four hour blocks of visitation on either Saturday or Sunday**
**Lumley Close Custody -3 visits per week
**Lumley Max Custody – 1 two hour Non Contact Visit
****AM BLOCK: No arrivals after 10 A.M.****
****PM BLOCK: No arrivals after 2 P.M.****
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/05/sneak-peek-jodi-arias-eventual-prison-home/24456075/

March 5, 2015

"....Arias will live in maximum custody at Arizona State Prison Complex-Perryville."
"...Arias eventually could be placed in a medium-custody prison after five years and be allowed to work if her behavior warrants a downgrade in her security level..."
"...She will be in an individual cell in the L-shaped maximum-security "special management" building within the Lumley Unit..."
"... She will be allowed one visit of up to two hours per week. There can be no physical contact, and visitors must be approved by the Department of Corrections. An inmate's family may visit during that time. Privileges, such as recreation time, can increase based on an inmate's behavior..."
"...Initially, Arias will be allowed one 15-minute phone call per week, monitored by prison officials.
After two years, Arias could be moved to a close-custody unit, which is less restrictive. The biggest difference is that Arias could be moved to a two-bunk cell and have a roommate. She also would be allowed to be escorted to an eating area with other inmates.
Three years later, she could be moved to medium custody, where she could live in a dormitory environment with 10 or more inmates and would be able to work, according to a prison spokesman.
Regardless, she will stay at the Perryville facility, as that is the only state prison that houses women."
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http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2015/03/03/life-or-death-jodi-arias-will-spend-rest-her-sentence-inside-this-cell/

"Her new cell will have a painted blue floor, a small bunk with a thin vinyl covered mattress, some shelves, and a porcelain sink and toilet. It's in the maximum security unit at Perryville Prison and life or death; it's where Arias will live.

"So it doesn't matter to her life or death, because the death row, there's so few women, only two of them, they are in the midst of where the maximum security inmates are housed," said Arizona Department of Corrections Director Charles Ryan.

Arias will spend six hours a week in recreation time outdoors in a fenced in area. At first it has to be alone, and with death it will stay that way. Arias will be confined to her cell and receive her meals through a slot in the door.

But if Arias gets life in prison, her time at Perryville will improve fairly quickly.

After a month of perfect behavior, she is eligible to spend $80 a week in the prison store for food and supplies. She can eat breakfast and dinner in the dining area with other inmates, and get a job that pays her between 10 and 50 cents an hour. And she will be able to do origami and pencil drawing activities. Arias will also be able to attend group counseling sessions with 11 other inmates, but during those she will be locked in place.

"Their ankles are in cuffs; there is a slide bar over that, so they could not get out over the chair to try and attack or touch another inmate," he said.

The corrections staff at Perryville have been preparing for Arias' arrival by telling officers to keep a professional distance from her. They say they will be watching her and her interaction with other inmates very closely."

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(03-31-2015, 02:26 PM)Lunarscope Wrote: [ -> ]The prison official is a retired news hound, that has no permission to post what he knows about the Prison, Arizona would not let a guard make them statements, it would result in immediate suspension.

I am searching for info.

Does this help;
A new video by Carl Toersbijns, former deputy warden of AZ and NM prisons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weP5dDp3OOE&feature=youtu.be

Reading your post above; For a month Jodi gets Max Custody, and that had been 60 days reported at first verdict time, then GP and the more good behavior with time allows more freedoms.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/26/jodi-arias-possible-setences_n_6762876.html

Natural Life

If Arias receives a sentence of natural life -- life without parole, that is -- she'll enjoy better living conditions, though not right away.

"If someone comes in with a [natural] life or 25-to-life sentence, they would start at max custody for the first couple years, so they would initially be in the same situation as someone on death row," Bill Lamoreaux, the public information officer for the Arizona Department of Corrections, told HuffPost.

So, for the first few years behind bars, Arias would face the same treatment as someone on death row, albeit in a different area of the prison. Time spent in maximum custody would depend on a number of factors, including her behavior.

In all probability, Arias would be moved to the less-restrictive "close custody" within two years, and to medium custody within five years of that, Toersbijns said. Given the nature of her crime, medium custody is the lowest classification Arias can earn. Compared to life on death row, medium custody comes with benefits.

"She'll be able to do time in general population, in a dormitory setting and could foreseeably get a good job," Toersbijns said. "Her notoriety and the money people keep putting on her books would also make her influential over other inmates."

There is much more freedom in medium custody and visitations are not restricted to behind glass. Physical contact is, of course, limited, but not altogether banned.

"She is already adjusted to the Joe Arpaio jail, so she won't suffer much [in medium security]," Toersbijns said. "She could basically make a new life for herself behind bars."

Life With The Possibility Of Release Eligibility After 25 Years

The best-case scenario for Arias -- and the least plausible outcome, according to Toersbijns and Hamm -- is life with the possibility of release eligibility after 25 years.

With that sentence, all the restrictions of a natural life sentence apply, but there is a bit of light at the end of the tunnel. However, just what that light means is yet to be seen.

"No one knows in Arizona what it means to say life with possibility of release eligibility after 25 years," Hamm said.

"That law went into effect in 1994, so we haven't had the first prisoner come up on that 25-year mark yet, and they won’t until 2019," Hamm continued. "So will it mean parole eligibility? We don't know because parole was eliminated under the 1994 code. Some officials believe it means the inmate can apply for a reduced sentence, but no one knows how it will be handled."

Could Notoriety Be Arias' Downfall?

If Arias does escape death, there is a possibility that she could be forced to remain in maximum-security housing.

"She could theoretically be given a classification override by the department that would keep her in a higher-level facility, simply because of the notoriety of the case," Hamm said. "I don't know that they apply that often, but they certainly have the ability to do that."

Unlike the first trial, a deadlock this time will not buy Arias any more time. It would simply ensure she escapes death."

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(03-31-2015, 03:58 PM)Lunarscope Wrote: [ -> ]

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(03-31-2015, 02:26 PM)Lunarscope Wrote: [ -> ]The prison official is a retired news hound, that has no permission to post what he knows about the Prison, Arizona would not let a guard make them statements, it would result in immediate suspension.

I am searching for info.

Does this help;
A new video by Carl Toersbijns, former deputy warden of AZ and NM prisons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weP5dDp3OOE&feature=youtu.be

Thanks Lunarscope.
I saw this other day.
Very good.

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(03-31-2015, 03:58 PM)Lunarscope Wrote: [ -> ]

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(03-31-2015, 02:26 PM)Lunarscope Wrote: [ -> ]The prison official is a retired news hound, that has no permission to post what he knows about the Prison, Arizona would not let a guard make them statements, it would result in immediate suspension.

I am searching for info.

Does this help;
A new video by Carl Toersbijns, former deputy warden of AZ and NM prisons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weP5dDp3OOE&feature=youtu.be

Reading your post above; For a month Jodi gets Max Custody, and that had been 60 days reported at first verdict time, then GP and the more good behavior with time allows more freedoms.

Yes, that is true but she remains in Max custody for a couple of years as the other articles state.

I disagree with Huffington because' as I said it didn't happen for Simpson' a slaughter who spent 3 days killing' pulling teeth, and for regrets said she wish she spent 5 days killing, so this paragraph is incorrect.

"If someone comes in with a [natural] life or 25-to-life sentence, they would start at max custody for the first couple years, so they would initially be in the same situation as someone on death row.

Then'
Life With The Possibility Of Release Eligibility After 25 Years

I ask this' A parole board exists' and if a judge sets the sentence at 25 years with the possibility of parole, what's confusing, nothing but the news and this convoluted trials participants, a sentence is a sentence' nothing out of sink with reality' good behavior is required, it's confusion like this that stirs the bloggers, simply put if a Judge said 25 year' in 25 year it is, unless additional charges force reconsideration.
And time served reduction of sentence is another issue.

Nerm you don't know and neither do I, (good discussion) we exposed all the intricatenesses and Jodi will be carefully watched for years' my main point is budget cuts has that prison a slum' so their rules must be hampered due to reported overcrowding.

I don't know Huffington sources' but obviously it's rules tabled that require a perfect world that is not Perryville, if as I say' the rules are lax, we will know by a vigilante DP.

Lunarscope,
First of all - yes - it is a good discussion!

Huffington's source was Bill Lamoreaux, the public information officer for the Arizona Department of Corrections. One would think he knows what he is talking about.

My whole point in the links and postings I have done is to show that life for Arias will not be all "fun and games" as so many believe it will.
She has years of restrictions ahead of her and will only get more freedoms if she is on PERFECT behaviour. That is not something that I see happening given her behaviour in jail all of these years.

So many feel that she will be creating a great life for herself, manipulating all those around her or at least having some sort of influence over them. They feel that the only acceptable thing for her is solitary for the rest of her life and that will not happen.

People need to move forward and past their anger and disgust that she did not get the DP. I too am disgusted BTW.
It is a done deal and no one can change that. It is done and over.

Jodi Ann Arias is going to be locked behind bars for the rest of her natural life, as she should be, given that the DP is off the table.
She will no longer be in the free world and be able to do more horrible crimes.
She will be living with despicable people, who like her, are manipulating and bad and it will not be "easy street" for her AT ALL.
She will have to OBEY rules, something she is not at all used to.
She will eat prison food which is by no means gourmet.
She will wear the same orange jumpsuit everyday.
Her commissary will be low as she must pay restitution to the family from it so she cannot live on junk food.
Everything she says and does for the rest of her life will be scrutinized and scheduled.
No more hugs but then she really does not have loved ones that would do that anyway unless you count the mentally ill supporters that may linger.

I cannot think of anyone who would want that for the rest of their life in this world.
We only get one life and that would be hell on earth to me.

If anything, people can now be watchful in the event she once again finds a way to represent herself after her sentencing.
If this happens, she would have access to any form of communication that she can say has to do with her case for appeal.
I feel that is very scary because knowing her, she would find a way to continue to abuse the Alexander family AND she would find a way to once again be on social media and spew her verbal diarrhea.

I do not know what the laws are about representing one's self in appeals but I could see it might be a possibility. Or at least she will try to be like a co-counsel.

That is far more upsetting to me than the fact that she is locked up and not dead.

She will be dead to me once she gets to Perryville.
Let the chips fall where they may for her. I do not care..........
EXCEPT if she is able to terrorize the Alexander family.

Yea' agree, I don't expect Jodi to have any appeal self defending, or a appeal motion accepted for more than an hour hearing that we will never know about' notice of denied appeal motion excluded, she is done' if her bankroll and following are gone, that's my fear, and I think activities are in motion to prevent that possibility. If Jodi has supporter money she will buy protection and friends, and she is dominating if allowed, I see that Jodi played professionals and that's harder than felons, but felons can circumvent being used, Jodi uses and if she becomes respected look out, even 10 years from now.

I think she will appeal but it will be wasted energy on her part.
Any appeal she tries will be denied and I personally thank JSS.

I am a firm believer that Arias will not become the "Pod Princess" in Perryville not even in 10 years.
Felons, a lot of them, are smart cookies.
They know when they are being played by someone.
They may befriend someone but it is always for a purpose - commissary, sex, drugs or access to the outside for example.
They do not tolerate arrogance, suck-ups or someone that feels they come from a better place than them.
They have no use for someone they see as "privileged".
They have no use for pathological liars.

Arias is all of the above and it is going to make things very difficult for her.
She has no idea of the inmate rules within the prison. No idea at all and she probably feels her charm will win them over.

To become respected within the prison, she will have to play by their rules.
This is something that is very foreign to her.
In her mind, others' rules do not apply to her.
She wants what SHE wants and she will try almost everything she can to get it.

Arias is NOT that good and her "charm" will work against her in my opinion.
She has absolutely no idea what is in store for her.