I live about an hour and a half from London, Ontario. I think of it as my hometown as my family has deep roots there both on my mother's and father's side.
Yes - extreme cold. The temperatures in the last couple of weeks have been in the -20's C and this does not include the wind chill. We have a lot of snow as well.
Spring, summer and fall are nice but I do not like the humidity in the dead of summer.
I have a son who lives in Toronto with his family. The other lives about an hour from London too but in the other direction.
VERDICT WATCH - finally!
(02-25-2015, 06:53 PM)Observer Wrote: [ -> ]Now we are on verdict watch. Jurors 2 and 13 are the alternates.
Nern, I assume you are talking about going to London, Canada, not London, France, correct? I read where London, Ontario, is going through an extreme cold spell. Do you live near London, Ontario? I have a daughter who moved to Toronto last year. She says the winters are brutal but the summers are nice.
It rained in Mesa and our temperatures dropped from the 80s to the 60s and we feel cold. I can't imagine -13 temperatures. I guess you are used to it.
Not London, England? That's where I was thinking. Also did you all know that in the original trial, the four who voted against the death penalty were three men and one woman? Hmmm. I didn't know about this except that the foreman was a male. I am not surprised at the men though. I hope that sex doesn't play a part in this jury's deliberation.
Attorney Jeff Gold has said that Jodi Arias won’t get the death penalty because this isn't a death penalty case. He said women are not executed when they kill their lover or husband. This story proves he is wrong.
ATLANTA (AP) — The state of Georgia on Wednesday delayed the execution of its only female death row inmate, ahead of a winter storm forecast to hit many areas with several inches of snow.
Kelly Renee Gissendaner, 46, had been scheduled for execution at 7 p.m. at the state prison in Jackson. The execution has been reset for Monday, according to a Department of Corrections statement.
The department didn't give a reason in its statement. A winter storm was is forecast to hit parts of Georgia on Wednesday afternoon, closing schools and offices and prompting warnings about roads.
Gissendaner was convicted of murder in the February 1997 slaying of her husband. Prosecutors said she plotted with her boyfriend, Gregory Owen, in the killing.
Owen pleaded guilty and received a life prison sentence. A jury sentenced Gissendaner to death in 1998.
Gissendaner would be the first woman executed in Georgia in about 70 years.
(02-25-2015, 05:46 PM)duluth45 Wrote: [ -> ]Lunarscope, I hadn't thought of a jury thinking of if they vote life that the judge might give her possibility of release after 25 years. That is an interesting way of looking at it. Also, wouldn't her time served be applied to the 25 years?
Jodi gets no time served 25 years would be release at 52 but warden can grant early release in most all jails / prisons with few exceptions. Even life in prison inmates get medical release in American prisons for poor health reasons, how Arizona manages is hasn't been (My) researched!
Its been my argument for a year, their is release at 52 or death tabled, the rest is a maybe, why decide and have decision befall the unwanted early release, so give her death or when she kills again live with the failure. I don't think JSS will release Jodi due to the 15 gallons of gas over a full tank (15 gallons) of gas, (30 gallons = equates over 200 sticks of dynamite) that's terrorism, in the eye of (Protecting the Common Citizenship) what the courts only job is! But my opinions not a jury decision, I expect a swift verdict' without deliberating for time spent respectability, a raise your hand then fill-out decision form consensus!
Jodi will get TV (its limited channels) and could get into population within a year, (a female DP Arizona prisoner in 1 year) has now received population confinement! The word is not Jodi but I don't trust!
To below I think a verdict today, because Friday is to be an off day, Thursday at the latest!
I just read that the jury has decided to not deliberate on Fridays. Tell me your thoughts on how long the jury will be out, please. I am saying next Wednesday they might have a verdict. How do all of you feel now that the trial is over?
I think it is typical of this trial for the jury to not deliberate from Friday to Sunday. You'd think they'd want to get it over with but maybe some of them have jobs and they work on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and are used to a routine of Monday to Thursday. I am not going to predict when they will come back because none of us know what any of the jurors are thinking. I can just tell you that if I were on that jury I would come back with a death verdict quickly because the defense didn't prove any of their mitigators because they were too busy trashing Travis Alexander and trying to get the jury to feel sorry for Arias.
Just like Arias, in his final closing, Nurmi talked out of both sides of his mouth again today.
He said Dr. Janeen DeMarte was biased because she didn't say good morning to him and works for the state so forget everything she said but accept her diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder.
He said Travis Alexander was angry, violent, abusive, that he is a child molester and lover of porn, that Deanna Reid and Bishop Parker lied for him but when Travis Alexander walked in a room, he filled it with love and he loved Jodi Arias so he would not want her to die.
He says the jury can't use emotion in making their decision but then points to a picture of Jodi Arias with her dog and says, "Can you kill her?"
The Alexander sisters were sobbing again today so I hope the jury realizes that this is about Travis Alexander getting justice and his family getting closure and not about a spoiled brat getting her way.
Duluth said,Not London, England? That's where I was thinking. Also did you all know that in the original trial, the four who voted against the death penalty were three men and one woman? Hmmm. I didn't know about this except that the foreman was a male. I am not surprised at the men though. I hope that sex doesn't play a part in this jury's deliberation.
The three holdouts were nol hanging outs with the younger jurors, an older female was on news and voted for the DP but she would hang out with the younger crowd.
The Jury forman male was in the older crowd, their was an agreement not to reveal or discuss how votes were cast before judge was informed, so an older female and two older males voted for Jodi to live' but I think that if their mindset was firm we would have heard from them, at least one or two of them, I think after this jury decides we will hear that the standouts were riding the fence, it matters not if the foreman was willing to let jodi live had voting reached 11 to 1 but question is would he want that published? As a local ham-radio DJ I doubt-it!
I do not care what the make-up is of this jury nor do I care about the last jury and who voted what.
This jury is unique in its own right.
I cannot speculate on which way they will go with their decision. I have my own thoughts on it but I am not on the jury, have not been privy to absolutely everything as they have and I will not second guess what they will do.
My feeling that a verdict could come quickly is if they vote for the DP.
If it drags on, then they are either at odds, or they are just reviewing every detail that they have in front of them.
Too hard to know.
Lunarscope -
I have followed shows on prison life in the U. S. for a very long time and no where have I seen an early release for any inmate with dire health issues.
Each prison has an infirmary where those that are ill are housed. If the illness is beyond the scope of this infirmary, the inmate is transferred to a hospital until they are stable enough to return to the prison.
Most prisons also have their own cemetery for those inmates that die and have no one to claim their remains.
There is no early release for those incarcerated for life or for those who are on Death Row.
If this has ever happened, there had to be extreme extenuating circumstances.
It is also my understanding that in the state of Arizona, someone that is given LWOP is held in almost solitary for up to 5 years. An inmate would have to be an exceptional prisoner to be considered going into general population early. Those on Death Row remain in restricted solitary until they are executed, or their sentence is commuted.
I am sorry if I burst bubbles by not going to London, England. I would never go there for a few days as the cost would be astronomical to say nothing of the jet lag. London, Ontario is a really nice place to go to though.
Would somebody be kind enough to tell me what constitutes a death penalty charge? I read earlier where that Jeff Gold (or somebody) said this is not a death penalty case. If it isn't, why was it charged? I do not understand.
Duluth, in Arizona a defendant who has been convicted of first degree murder is eligible for the death penalty if the prosecution can prove at least one of the 10 aggravators:
(1) prior conviction for which a sentence of life imprisonment or death was imposable;
(2) prior serious offense involving the use or threat of violence;
(3) grave risk of death to others;
(4) procurement of murder by payment or promise of payment;
(5) commission of murder for pecuniary gain;
(6) murder committed in an especially heinous, cruel or depraved manner;
(7) murder committed while in custody (effective Oct. 1, 1978);
(8) multiple homicides
(9) murder of a victim under 15 years of age (effective May 16, 1985) or of a victim 70 years of age or older (effective July 17, 1993); and
(10) murder of a law enforcement officer.
Jodi Arias qualified for the death penalty because the last jury determined the murder of Alexander was committed in an especially heinous, cruel or depraved manner.
Defense attorneys are usually against the death penalty. Some people believe a death sentence should be reserved for serial killers and cop killers.